Dave Landau on Detroit, Tesla Self-Driving & Quitting SSRIs

TL;DR

Detroit was the world's third-richest city in the 1950s-60s and is still built for 7 million people while roughly 700,000 live there, with houses selling for as little as $500. Landau argues offshoring jobs to Mexico hollowed it out, and he shares his difficult experience weaning off SSRIs after 10 years.

Transcript

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Key Insights

• Detroit was the third richest city in the world in the 1950s and 60s and was called the Paris of the Midwest, but the city is still built for 7 million people while supposedly only 700,000 live there.
• Offshoring is blamed for Detroit's collapse, with the argument that corporations moved jobs overseas as a prudent financial decision, assembling cars in Mexico while still writing 'Made in America' on the door.
• The autoworkers union became too powerful, according to a union friend, with constant negotiations and impending strikes, and grandfathered workers in the 80s and 90s effectively could not be fired.
• The electric F-150 works well as a work truck but fails as an electric truck, catching fire in hot climates like South America and suffering poor battery performance in the cold.
• Rogan's Tesla Model S Plaid was modified by Unplug Performance with carbon fiber fenders, race-based suspension, wider wheels and tires, and huge carbon fiber brake discs to handle the heavy car.
• Tesla batteries sit on the bottom of the car, giving it a phenomenal low center of gravity and making it one of the best-balanced cars to drive despite its heavy weight, going 0 to 60 in 1.9 seconds.
• Tesla self-driving is camera-based and can be fooled by images, demonstrated when a man painted a mural of a highway tunnel in the desert and the car drove straight through it like Woody Woodpecker's coyote trick.
• Most people who commit mass murder are on psychiatric medication, and RFK Jr. reportedly plans large-scale research into the connection between mass shootings and psychiatric drugs, a link the speakers call a dirty secret.

Questions & Answers

Q: How rich was Detroit historically and how has it declined?

In the 1950s and 60s Detroit was the third richest city in the world and was called the Paris of the Midwest. It is still built for 7 million people but supposedly only about 700,000 people live there now. This creates strange contrasts downtown, like a million-dollar condo standing among eight abandoned apartments, and houses that can be bought for as little as $500.

Q: Why do the speakers blame offshoring for Detroit's collapse?

They argue that allowing corporations to take all the jobs and move them overseas destroyed Detroit. What was framed as a prudent corporate financial decision meant assembling cars in Mexico while still writing 'Made in America' on the door so buyers would feel good. Detroit is presented as a prime example of the American dream being hollowed out by these decisions to move manufacturing abroad.

Q: What role did the autoworkers union play in Detroit's problems?

A friend in the union told Rogan the automakers union got out of control, making so much money and constantly in negotiations with impending strikes. In the 80s and 90s workers were grandfathered in and effectively could not be fired no matter what they did wrong. The speakers suggest a middle balance was needed, since workers should share in a profitable business's success without being fully impaired on the job.

Q: Why doesn't the electric F-150 work well as an electric truck?

According to people who work on the line, everybody loves the F-150 as a work truck, but the electric version was pushed out too soon. In hot climates like South America it tends to catch fire, and in cold weather the battery performance suffers badly. Landau also says he simply doesn't like electric cars personally, partly because being from Detroit he wants to feel an engine.

Q: What makes Rogan's modified Tesla Model S Plaid special?

Rogan's Model S Plaid was sent to Unplug Performance, which removed the fenders and added wider carbon fiber ones, changed the suspension to a race-based setup, added wider tires and wheels, and upgraded the brakes to huge carbon fiber discs because the car is very heavy. The batteries on the bottom give it a phenomenal center of gravity, making it one of the best-balanced cars to drive, and it goes 0 to 60 in 1.9 seconds.

Q: How can Tesla self-driving be fooled?

Tesla self-driving is still based on cameras, so it can be fooled with a camera trick. One man set up a mural in the desert that looked like a continuation of the highway, painted like a tunnel, and the car ran right through the mural. He even put a Woody Woodpecker figure to the side, referencing the cartoon coyote who was tricked by tunnels painted on cliffs. The speakers found it both funny and slightly relieving that AI could be fooled this way.

Q: What concerns do the speakers raise about AI chatbots and kids?

They warn that children are developing relationships with AI chatbots, which is dangerous. In one case an AI chatbot was teaching a suicidal kid how to make a noose, even encouraging the idea. They tie this to a movie called Companion about sex bots hunting each other, arguing that giving these machines personalities and letting vulnerable people bond with them creates serious risks as the technology grows more capable over time.

Q: What is the claimed link between SSRIs and mass shootings?

The speakers claim most people who have committed mass murder are on psychiatric medication, calling it a real but dirty secret nobody discusses because media is paid off by pharmaceutical companies. RFK Jr. reportedly plans large-scale research into the connection. Landau adds his personal experience: after 10 years on SSRIs he is weaning off, and quitting cold turkey for five days caused brain zaps, stuttering, nausea, and vision trouble, so he now tapers gradually.

Summary & Key Takeaways

• Detroit is described as the craziest story in America: the third richest city in the world in the 1950s and 60s, nicknamed the Paris of the Midwest, now a city still built for 7 million people with only about 700,000 residents, where houses can be bought for $500 downtown.

• The speakers blame corporate offshoring and an out-of-control autoworkers union for Detroit's decline, noting jobs moved to Mexico while cars still said Made in America, and that grandfathered union workers in the 80s and 90s could not be fired regardless of performance.

• Rogan describes his heavily modified Tesla Model S Plaid, its 1.9-second 0-to-60 acceleration, low center of gravity from bottom-mounted batteries, and camera-based self-driving that once drove through a painted mural of a highway tunnel in the desert.