Kevin Indig


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"What we need is a better approach to keyword research so we can create content that stands out, overshoots user expectations and is attractive to search engines."
Kevin Indig
A better approach to keyword research for content marketing
"Good content answers questions and every question is a problem. Hence, if you want to create good content you need to focus on the problem it should solve."
Kevin Indig
A better approach to keyword research for content marketing
"Instead of heading to the next SEO tool, I started on Quora, Twitter, Youtube, and Co"
Kevin Indig
A better approach to keyword research for content marketing
"I wanted to find the topics related to toothbrushes that people really care about."
Kevin Indig
A better approach to keyword research for content marketing
"Social networks are built around discussions and opinions, which makes them a much better tool than search engines."
Kevin Indig
A better approach to keyword research for content marketing
"Questions Problem, topic, and query User intent Funnel stage Content ideas"
Kevin Indig
A better approach to keyword research for content marketing
"Starting the research with questions makes it easier to put the pieces together and uncover the underlying problems and bigger topics."
Kevin Indig
A better approach to keyword research for content marketing
"When researching on Quora, you should save links to the questions, so you can add your answer when you created the content."
Kevin Indig
A better approach to keyword research for content marketing
"Use all platforms, not just a few. There’s always an angle, question, or trail that you find on one of these that makes your list of questions and queries better."
Kevin Indig
A better approach to keyword research for content marketing
"A good content marketing strategy considers topics, problems, and queries."
Kevin Indig
A better approach to keyword research for content marketing
"A problem is a real-life case behind the search. It helps us to understand what a user is trying to accomplish with a search."
Kevin Indig
A better approach to keyword research for content marketing
"Group problems into a topic because Google measures topical relevance. It’s smarter to create content for one topic first and then advance to the next one to forge expertise."
Kevin Indig
A better approach to keyword research for content marketing
"Every problem must also be targeting a query to add up to an SEO strategy. Like problems, queries add up to topics as well."
Kevin Indig
A better approach to keyword research for content marketing
"I often start with a few questions, identify their queries, look at related queries, then find more questions from that, etc."
Kevin Indig
A better approach to keyword research for content marketing
"Once you have identified topics, questions, and queries, it’s time to look at user intent. As I explained in User Intent mapping on steroids, Google mentions 6 basic user intents:"
Kevin Indig
A better approach to keyword research for content marketing
"SERP features like a featured snippet or Google shopping ads can tell us what user intent Google sees for a query."
Kevin Indig
A better approach to keyword research for content marketing
"While User Intent is the intention behind a search, the buyer’s funnel is the sequence of intents mapped to a business."
Kevin Indig
A better approach to keyword research for content marketing
"For blogs and landing pages, I personally like the “See-Think-Do-Care” framework, originally invented by Avinash Kaushik"
Kevin Indig
A better approach to keyword research for content marketing
"You can apply this framework to your content and keywords to understand your gaps."
Kevin Indig
A better approach to keyword research for content marketing
"If you want to create high-quality content you should also consider the situation connected to the problem(s)."
Kevin Indig
A better approach to keyword research for content marketing
"SEO for large vs. small sites is very different, not only from a technical but from a content perspective. Large sites can capitalize on their product inventory or user-generated content for SEO."
Kevin Indig
A better approach to keyword research for content marketing
"But small sites that cannot scale in the same fashion and rely much more on Content Marketing."
Kevin Indig
A better approach to keyword research for content marketing
"Defining the right goal for SEO"
Kevin Indig
Forging a fine-tuned SEO machine
"Everything starts with a goal. Most startups “just want more organic traffic”, but that doesn’t cut it."
Kevin Indig
Forging a fine-tuned SEO machine
"“More traffic” is not a goal; “+30% conversion from organic traffic YoY” is."
Kevin Indig
Forging a fine-tuned SEO machine
"You should also ask yourself the philosophical question ""What does success in SEO look like?”"
Kevin Indig
Forging a fine-tuned SEO machine
"A weekly meeting with the SEO team, analysts, and other stakeholders (e.g. paid team, Growth team, product marketers, etc.) to discuss and measure progress."
Kevin Indig
Forging a fine-tuned SEO machine
"A bi-weekly or monthly SEO report that’s sent out to the key stakeholders – even the CEO if SEO is a crucial channel for the company – to give a high-level overview of performance and current projects."
Kevin Indig
Forging a fine-tuned SEO machine
"One of the biggest questions about SEO teams is where they should be positioned in the company structure."
Kevin Indig
Forging a fine-tuned SEO machine
"The best answer to where SEO should live depends on the business model. B2B vs. B2C is not a good filter since some SaaS companies can use their product to scale SEO (to a degree), for example, Trello (boards) or Typeform (templates)."
Kevin Indig
Forging a fine-tuned SEO machine
"If you have a public facing product that allows SEO to scale, say reviews like Yelp or listings like AirBNB, SEO needs to be integrated into the Product organization."
Kevin Indig
Forging a fine-tuned SEO machine
"The team has to be part of the product team and the SEO lead should report to the CTO (or CPO)"
Kevin Indig
Forging a fine-tuned SEO machine
"Scalable SEO products mostly occur in companies with consumer focus."
Kevin Indig
Forging a fine-tuned SEO machine
"If you rely on Content Marketing to drive SEO, like Hubspot or certain products of Atlassian (e.g. Jira), the SEO team often sits in Marketing."
Kevin Indig
Forging a fine-tuned SEO machine
"In this case, SEO relies much more on resources from design, writers, PR/brand, IT, developers, etc. and often has to compete for them. Thus, success stands and falls with allocating enough resources to SEO and creating shared KPIs to create a sense of responsibility for other teams."
Kevin Indig
Forging a fine-tuned SEO machine
"The fastest growing companies drive growth with dedicated teams that own user acquisition, retention, and monetization."
Kevin Indig
Forging a fine-tuned SEO machine
"In this case, SEO lives under user-acquisition but shares many touch points with retention as well."
Kevin Indig
Forging a fine-tuned SEO machine
"It can have a big impact on retention as well by using keyword research to identify keywords that indicate problems with the product, intents to churn, or missing features."
Kevin Indig
Forging a fine-tuned SEO machine
"If your SEO organization is integrated, the focus on technical SEO is much higher."
Kevin Indig
Forging a fine-tuned SEO machine
"The number of technical SEOs you hire depends on how many fields of technical SEO are important for your product"
Kevin Indig
Forging a fine-tuned SEO machine
"If your SEO team is not integrated and (self-created) content plays a bigger role, the SEO organization stands and falls with writers."
Kevin Indig
Forging a fine-tuned SEO machine
"In best case, they’re part of the SEO team. Having content creators isolated from the SEO team is a bad idea."
Kevin Indig
Forging a fine-tuned SEO machine
"SEO has become too broad to live in isolation; cooperation with other teams, like developers, analysts, writers, etc. has become vital."
Kevin Indig
Forging a fine-tuned SEO machine
"Thus, it’s important for the SEO lead to build bridges to other teams, especially when SEO is not integrated."
Kevin Indig
Forging a fine-tuned SEO machine
"There are two ways to build bridges: ongoing collaboration and cross-functional teams."
Kevin Indig
Forging a fine-tuned SEO machine
"Ongoing collaboration is composed by creating regular meetings with the SEO team and others, placing members of the SEO teams in other teams’ meetings, and finding shared goals/KPIs."
Kevin Indig
Forging a fine-tuned SEO machine
"Cross-functional teams are another way to strengthen the connection between separate teams and focus on projects. A tip I can give you is not to wait for cross-functional teams to form themselves, but to be proactive about them."
Kevin Indig
Forging a fine-tuned SEO machine
"A fine-tuned SEO machine: Input > Process > Output"
Kevin Indig
Forging a fine-tuned SEO machine
"To find them, use your SEO tools of choice to filter your keywords for position > 30 and including question modifiers like “why, where, what, when, or how“."
Kevin Indig
Great product features are key to SEO traffic for large sites
"The biggest SEO gains for large sites come from new or improved product features."
Kevin Indig
Great product features are key to SEO traffic for large sites
"Inventory-driven sites have scalable and indexable page templates, either from UGC or product inventory, whereas content-driven sites generate organic traffic with content they create themselves."
Kevin Indig
Great product features are key to SEO traffic for large sites
"New product features are really only useful for large sites that scale with inventory, which I call “decentralized” in an article about internal linking and in one about finding the right SEO strategy for your business."
Kevin Indig
Great product features are key to SEO traffic for large sites
"Inventory and how it's displayed is a product feature, especially for marketplaces."
Kevin Indig
Great product features are key to SEO traffic for large sites
"Good SEOs always find a way to scale inventory, make it indexable, and optimize it."
Kevin Indig
Great product features are key to SEO traffic for large sites
"The goal is to find keywords that can be targeted with new features and then optimize page templates to rank higher."
Kevin Indig
Great product features are key to SEO traffic for large sites
"Two challenges arise from that: 1.    Discovering new product features to grow SEO at scale 2.    Getting them shipped"
Kevin Indig
Great product features are key to SEO traffic for large sites
"New SEO product features are page template enhancements that target certain keyword groups."
Kevin Indig
Great product features are key to SEO traffic for large sites
"SEO is not an approach product people usually take to inform new features. SEO quantifies customer needs because it’s based on search demand a.k.a. problems real people have."
Kevin Indig
Great product features are key to SEO traffic for large sites
"As such, SEO research - not classic keyword research - can be a very potent way to discover and develop new product features based on search volume."
Kevin Indig
Great product features are key to SEO traffic for large sites
"To find something you can “get inspiration from”, you can simply punch your competitor into the content/keyword gap feature of tools like AHREFS or SEMrush and look for keywords you’re not ranking for."
Kevin Indig
Great product features are key to SEO traffic for large sites
"The framework I found most helpful to discover new keywords and features is “jobs-to-be-done” by Clayton Christensen."
Kevin Indig
Great product features are key to SEO traffic for large sites
"It considers how a customer thinks about a solution but also how the customer believes to be perceived while using the solution."
Kevin Indig
Great product features are key to SEO traffic for large sites
"The key outcome of using the JTBD framework is job statements. They consist of a verb, an object, and context like “research new software solutions at work”."
Kevin Indig
Great product features are key to SEO traffic for large sites
"Part of selling well is knowing your audience and the language they speak."
Kevin Indig
Great product features are key to SEO traffic for large sites
"So, you need to learn “product speak” and workflows."
Kevin Indig
Great product features are key to SEO traffic for large sites
"Mind you that even when you can sell well, you need to consider how SEO fits into the company from an organizational point of view. That has a big impact on how successful you can be."
Kevin Indig
Great product features are key to SEO traffic for large sites
"SEO is less a ""tangible"" thing and much more a meta-layer we add on top of things like web development, design, or writing. You don’t just “do SEO” - you apply it to something. That’s why the success of SEOs depends on the execution of others."
Kevin Indig
Great product features are key to SEO traffic for large sites
"Getting technical SEO right means to inform the product team based on organic traffic opportunities. There are three ways to do that, ranked by effectiveness."
Kevin Indig
Great product features are key to SEO traffic for large sites
"SEO is part of the product organization, which I wrote about at length in “Forging a fine-tuned SEO machine”"
Kevin Indig
Great product features are key to SEO traffic for large sites
"The product roadmap has a fixed SEO track"
Kevin Indig
Great product features are key to SEO traffic for large sites
"Product teams and SEO have ongoing meetings and communication"
Kevin Indig
Great product features are key to SEO traffic for large sites
"The dream scenario is having direct reporting lines from developers to SEOs."
Kevin Indig
Great product features are key to SEO traffic for large sites
"Evangelization of SEO (a) demands constant education and promotion of why SEO is important and how to do it. Convincing executives (b) is a question of how well you speak “money”, meaning how clearly you’re able to communicate that your goals align with revenue."
Kevin Indig
Great product features are key to SEO traffic for large sites
"SEOs need to add that perspective to their tool kits to be successful because product features and experience matter so much more for organic traffic."
Kevin Indig
Great product features are key to SEO traffic for large sites
"""Aggregation Theory,"" a term coined by Ben Thompson, describes how disruptive internet companies channel demand based on superior user experience and free distribution and transaction cost."
Kevin Indig
Integrator vs Aggregator Growth
"In Aggregation Theory, the input is superior user experience, and the output is more users."
Kevin Indig
Integrator vs Aggregator Growth
"Integrators, on the other hand, have a strongly differentiated product that they directly distribute to customers."
Kevin Indig
Integrator vs Aggregator Growth
"Integrators like The New York Times, Apple, or Peloton own the whole value chain: suppliers, production or creation, and distribution."
Kevin Indig
Integrator vs Aggregator Growth
"The goal of integrators is to maximize margin by integrating vertically, but they don't have the same type of network effects that Aggregators have."
Kevin Indig
Integrator vs Aggregator Growth
"Instead, the input for Integrators is production value, and the output is content."
Kevin Indig
Integrator vs Aggregator Growth
"I tapped into the nuances of SEO in the difference between inventory-driven and content-driven sites and centralized versus decentralized sites."
Kevin Indig
Integrator vs Aggregator Growth
"The common denominator for Integrators and Aggregators is strong Product/Market Fit."
Kevin Indig
Integrator vs Aggregator Growth
"Aggregators can leverage the power of network effects that result from consolidating demand."
Kevin Indig
Integrator vs Aggregator Growth
"They benefit from aggregated instead of self-created ""inventory"": products, users, businesses, or ads."
Kevin Indig
Integrator vs Aggregator Growth
"Aggregators are typically marketplaces that commoditize supply: ads, search results, etc., look the same. That commoditization drives scale."
Kevin Indig
Integrator vs Aggregator Growth
"On the other hand, integrators create content themselves with the goal of increasing margins from production to distribution."
Kevin Indig
Integrator vs Aggregator Growth
"Their levers are production value of content, consumer experience, differentiation, and distribution efficiency."
Kevin Indig
Integrator vs Aggregator Growth
"Integrators should strive for content-market fit and compounding trust and brand effects."
Kevin Indig
Integrator vs Aggregator Growth
"The strongest Growth levers for Integrators are content marketing, paid acquisition channels, Word of Mouth, and referrals."
Kevin Indig
Integrator vs Aggregator Growth
"There is a third type of company: platforms. Shopify, WordPress, and Stripe build platforms for other companies to build on."
Kevin Indig
Integrator vs Aggregator Growth
"They grow with their user base and share the approach to Growth with Integrators"
Kevin Indig
Integrator vs Aggregator Growth
"Integrators: create the product themselves and distribute it directly to the customer"
Kevin Indig
Integrator vs Aggregator Growth
"Growth focus: Content Marketing, Paid Acquisition, Word of Mouth, Referrals"
Kevin Indig
Integrator vs Aggregator Growth
"Aggregators: consolidate supply to control demand"
Kevin Indig
Integrator vs Aggregator Growth
"Growth focus: Network Effects, Technical SEO, Product-led Growth Loops"
Kevin Indig
Integrator vs Aggregator Growth
"Founded by two former colleagues at Strava in 2016,  The Athletic reached 600 employees and $65M in ARR until the New York Times bought it for $550M in Cash in January 2022."
Kevin Indig
Aggregator strategies for Integrators
"The Athletic is an integrator. All content, except for maybe statistics that come through an API, is created by full-time journalists."
Kevin Indig
Aggregator strategies for Integrators
"Even though the content is company-created, team pages group it by topic and satisfy several strong user intents: knowing when your team plays next, knowing how they played in the recent game, learning what’s new about their players, etc."
Kevin Indig
Aggregator strategies for Integrators
"Not every company can go after an SEO aggregator strategy. So, the big question is, “how can you find out whether your site has the potential for aggregation?”"
Kevin Indig
Aggregator strategies for Integrators
"Surfacing that supply to search engines means treating the website as a product instead of a marketing property."
Kevin Indig
Aggregator strategies for Integrators
"The Athletic's team pages, the viability is anchored in getting the latest updates about a team, and the features are schedules, statistics, and articles."
Kevin Indig
Aggregator strategies for Integrators
"There are three types of supply for SEO aggregation: Best: UGC Second best: inventory Third best: programmatic"
Kevin Indig
Aggregator strategies for Integrators
"UGC comes in the form of reviews (G2), templates (Figma/Miro), or inventory (Airbnb), but it can’t be contextual content like “article comments”."
Kevin Indig
Aggregator strategies for Integrators
"Almost all UGC platforms are 2 or 3-sided marketplaces between buyers and sellers (and sometimes advertisers)."
Kevin Indig
Aggregator strategies for Integrators
"Many integrators start as point solutions that add a marketplace dynamic on top."
Kevin Indig
Aggregator strategies for Integrators
"The idea of “inventory” is simple: most products create some type of entity when used that can be aggregated and surface to Google, at least partially."
Kevin Indig
Aggregator strategies for Integrators
"Programmatic landing pages can be created for keyword permutations with a finite amount. They’re typically built with the same template for each page. Directories are a good example."
Kevin Indig
Aggregator strategies for Integrators
"We’ve already established that aggregator SEO is a product discipline, so the answer to aggregation has to be in the product. Better said, it’s buried in how users experience the product."
Kevin Indig
Aggregator strategies for Integrators
"What are the steps users go through to receive core value?"
Kevin Indig
Aggregator strategies for Integrators
"Along the journey, does the user encounter entities you could make public?"
Kevin Indig
Aggregator strategies for Integrators
"Where do or could users create new entities? (potential for UGC)"
Kevin Indig
Aggregator strategies for Integrators
"Does the product have integrations, or is it a platform (with apps)?"
Kevin Indig
Aggregator strategies for Integrators
"Do entities have any keyword search volume?"
Kevin Indig
Aggregator strategies for Integrators
"Conclusion: shifting from marketing to product thinking"
Kevin Indig
Aggregator strategies for Integrators
"Builders need to think about product value (does this really help users?), business feasibility (does this help us grow?) and experience (can we provide something better than what’s already out there?)."
Kevin Indig
Aggregator strategies for Integrators
"For SEO strategy, we need to add a 5th risk: can we get significant traffic from the keywords we target through aggregation?"
Kevin Indig
Aggregator strategies for Integrators

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