Critical Drinker - Why Does Modern Hollywood Hate Stoic Characters? | Summary and Q&A

March 15, 2023
Chris Williamson
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Critical Drinker - Why Does Modern Hollywood Hate Stoic Characters?


Hollywood writers view stoic men as toxic relics of the past, while the speaker sees stoicism as a necessary survival skill throughout history.

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Key Insights

  • ๐Ÿง”โ€โ™€๏ธ Stoic men are viewed as toxic relics by Hollywood writers influenced by women threatened or envious of stoicism and effeminate men.
  • โฎ๏ธ Previous generations' struggles and hardships developed stoicism as a necessary survival skill.
  • ๐Ÿ’ช Strong female characters in movies are often portrayed in an aggressive and domineering manner, contrary to real-life experiences.
  • ๐Ÿ’ฆ The live-action Mulan remake presents an empowering story, where the protagonist overcomes challenges through hard work and ingenuity.
  • ๐Ÿชญ Hollywood's attempt at fan baiting shames fans into supporting changes in beloved franchises by portraying critics as sexist or racist.
  • ๐Ÿง‘โ€๐ŸŒพ The guilt and shame approach of fan baiting can only go so far in convincing people to support something they genuinely dislike.
  • ๐Ÿ•ต๏ธโ€โ™‚๏ธ Attempts to replace dominant male protagonists in erotic novels with gentler characters resulted in poor sales.


I've also heard you talk about why it's unpopular for men to be seen as stoic anymore what's your insight though well again yeah um a stoic man is a toxic man in the minds of Hollywood writers whereas I see it as like a necessary um survival skill really throughout most of human history like you you can't have everyone uh be high strung emotional i... Read More

Questions & Answers

Q: Why do Hollywood writers view stoic men as toxic?

Hollywood writers see stoicism as a negative trait and a relic of a different time. They either feel threatened by it or envy it, leading to the mockery and destruction of stoic male characters.

Q: How did previous generations develop stoicism?

Previous generations experienced hard lives and had to put up with hardships. Stoicism was necessary for survival, as one couldn't sit and complain but had to get things done.

Q: Why do modern movies portray strong female characters as aggressive and domineering?

The speaker argues that the current idea of a strong female character is unrealistic. Most women the speaker knows can handle difficult situations without being aggressive or domineering. Hollywood's portrayal is inaccurate.

Q: How did the live-action Mulan remake differ from the original animated version?

In the original Mulan, the protagonist overcomes physical limitations through hard work, ingenuity, and creativity. The live-action version portrays the protagonist as inherently better than others due to her gender, leading to a less empowering story.

Summary & Key Takeaways

  • Stoic men are seen as toxic in Hollywood, but the speaker believes stoicism is essential for problem-solving and facing hardship.

  • Previous generations developed stoicism due to the struggles and hardships they faced.

  • Hollywood writers, influenced by women threatened by stoic men and effeminate men, mock and destroy the idea of stoicism.

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